Because it's just that ridiculous

[annneonet]

Sooo I'm on the verge of just ditching kattunlove and J-One. Seriously, point out one GOOD reason for bringing up this stupid rule. I was ok with a lot of the rules on kattunlove since well, it's huge, that I understand but helloooo? Can certain fans stop being elitist? I mean, did you guys READ the polls at J-one? You know what? We learned about this in gov/econ class. I forgot what it's called, but it's skewing the wording of questions to manipulate the answers given. The poll on kattunlove is much better and less biased.

So why I find this stupid:

1. "maybe people will buy it" This changes things how? Delaying a release is reeaaaally going to get someone to want to buy a release. They'll find it somewhere else, or if they aren't a fan, maybe they just won't even bother. And if they really didn't want to buy it in the first place, they'll buy it at the cheapest place (most likely YesAsia) which won't even count for the oricon charts. If you ask me, getting the leak on a website and putting a link to where people can buy it is the best way to go. That way at least people see it on a website that cares, no? Btw, I just realized that J-One uses affiliate links, wth? キモイ

2. "Fans who buy it should get to listen to it first." Stop being so elitist and get off the internet. Seriously. Then you'll ALWAYS be first and tbh, if you order from HMV there's a good chance that the package will come like a week after the release date anyway. Doh. (CDJapan might be a bit faster... I HAVE received items on the release date when I bought from them before, but their shipping cost's been killing me lately.) I don't know about YesAsia because I have an oricon obsession.

3. It's even more hilarious if you look at the poll @ kattunlove because so far? Only like 5 people don't feel like buying things even if they can. And the 60 w/e people that said they'd think about buying if the release was delayed in J-one? I be that most of the people who answered that were thinking "Hypothetically, if I wasn't going to buy the CD to begin with..." and just felt like they had to be "better fans" (which is a stupid term... you could buy everything they release and have a horrid personality and love wanking in communities) by buying w/e. The rest can't afford it and just buy what they can/want.

4. If you're soooo into "supporting" the artist, become like dnbn. ONLY allow small clips of songs and don't ever post full song uploads. EVER. That, I will respect. I also lol at people "feeling less guilty" when they download it on the release date. Dude, it's illegal either way. Get over it. LOL No one's going to smile at you and be like "Oh, you downloaded it on the release date? You're so much better than those who downloaded it, BEFORE the release date!" Besides, I think you know how to scroll down, yes? No one's forcing YOU to download the leaks. =.= But I'm not you, ok?

In the end, this is annoying to me because I LOVE leaks (could you not tell?) and I buy all their releases. Leaks are fun. You think that you're going to have to wait until xx but then when it comes out a bit early, it's like a surprise that brightens your (at least my) day. Also, I hate ripping stuff ok? If you're telling me that you want the fastest way to get a song to be to "get the CD and rip it yourself" a;slkdj;askjf that's so annoying. Especially since this computer can't rip CDs to 320kbp (this is an oooold computer so shush >.> ). The only reason I watched the QoP concert more than the cKIIY one was because QoP is available on youtube. I'm lazy, I know. Ugh, if EITHER one of the delays pass the poll and get put in action, I'm leaving kattunlove for good. I've been living off of naver lately anyway. =.=

K, sorry. Had to get that off my chest. Back to studying for Japanese/Calc or procrastinating... whichever. Not locking this because I see no reason to.

Way to ruin the positive hype for the album, fandom. Wth.

Comments

[raziel-gauin.livejournal.com]

AMEN! I'd say more but...you basically summed it up for me =\ wth is going on with these two comms x__x

Anyways, enlighten me to what Naver is?

[annneonet.livejournal.com]

I have nooo idea why they suddenly felt like doing this. Maybe some members who were jealous/angry about people who don't buy the albums (who I bet are either non-fans or fans who just can't to begin with) bothered the mods about it. It seems like a lame roundabout way of saying "It's not going to DO anything... but at least we sound better?" to me.

It kind of reminds me of econ class... when one student told the teacher that they were worried about us not having enough homework (wth???) so we ended up getting piles more. =___=

Naver's a Korean portal site. XD I just like to search around blogs and stuff for info/trans/etc. Although the fastest place to get info are the super secret Japanese/Chinese places that Idk about. >.> not that I could read Chinese to begin with...

[raziel-gauin.livejournal.com]

-__-;; If that's the case then wow, some people need to grow up. And yeah I don't see the whole point at all why this is being brought up. I mean as you said, people can just like scroll down/ignore the post. WTF~

...wow...wth who wants more homework -__-;; I mean he/she could've just done extra work or read up on more stuff in the textbook or whatever o___o

Oh!! I'll check it out, but I probably won't get anywhere DD8 OMG the superdupertopsecret sites *O* lol *patpat* I can't read Chinese either =3 I guess I'll just stick to that...err other comm which I can't remember right now (the one with all the JE updates...)

[konnistique.livejournal.com]

Wow, this is a whole bunch of FAIL and I don't even know what's going on rofl. Tbh, I don't even HAVE kattunlove OR jone on my flist and i can STILL download the album before the release date. This, I find incredibly hilarious. What's the point guys? LOL I'm seriously rofling right now. (By the way, did ktlove and jone combine and collaborate or something? :/)

1. "maybe people will buy it". Ugh, maybe did you say? No, no no no. Either they WILL buy it or they won't. Thirteen year old fangirls who have no income and only lurk, WON'T buy from cdjpn, simple as that.

2. "Fans who buy it should get to listen to it first." Oh wait, so you're saying you're the ONLY place on the whole entire web that can provide leaks? Oh, oh i see :||| /sarcasm.

3. "60 w/e people that said they'd think about buying." I think "think" here means 'no'. LOL better fans? Right, I see how that works COMPLETELY. --> What you said, The rest can't afford it and just buy what they can/want. I agree with 100%, just because an album is due to be release on XX day, doesn't mean we MUST buy it ON that day. Sure, it may not count to the charts and all, but in the end, if you're willing to buy the album out of 'want' and not 'need', the main idea is you end up with the album in your hands right? So what if I buy it a year later? >.>;

4. "Oh, you downloaded it on the release date? You're so much better than those who downloaded it, BEFORE the release date!" ROFLOL. I totally like how you think :Dv Seriously, how rich will you have to be to buy every. single. song. you listen to? I now have 2200 songs, so if I consider it ~$2 a song then whoa, where am i going to find ~$4400? D: And that's not including songs you can't buy! Whatever happened to 'music is made to be shared'? :X

I love leaks too. It's called "Sampling" isn't it? What's wrong with that? What about the people who play it on the street? In shops? What's that then? >.>; It's ridiculous yeah, this whole fiasco. And what's to say the mods WON'T secretly indulge in leaks?

Meh, the main point is, with KAT-TUN being so popular, there's no WAY their releases WON'T be leaked SOMEWHERE. It doesn't even have to be KTlove or jone. Heck, just look at me! :Dv



(imu~)

[annneonet.livejournal.com]

I don't have Jone on my flist, only kattunlove. XD Honestly, Idc what the heck that community does, but if it's going to affect kattunlove, that's annoying me like heck. I LIKE going to just one comm for everything I need. If ktlove's going to stop being that one comm, so be it. =.=

(By the way, did ktlove and jone combine and collaborate or something? :/)
They kinda did for this lame idea. If they actually merge or something, I'm out. >.> jone's nice when cb's being a bum, kattunlove is/was nice in general. Not including random spam that Idc about.

they WILL buy it or they won't
Ikr. LOL It's a simple yes or no question that people can make on their own and they aren't going to be influenced by one or two comms not posting it elsewhere. Rotation sites or other music uploading comms would have it available asap anways. :P I just don't want to add those onto my f-list. ~.~ I'm trying my best to not dl songs... well, I listen to them on youtube though. LOL But yeah, I won't care about the other releases >.>

Oh wait, so you're saying you're the ONLY place on the whole entire web that can provide leaks? Oh, oh i see :||| /sarcasm.
It's more like that the people who buy the CDs feel ENTITLED to listen to all the songs first and w/e. Psh. The internet got rid of that sort of stuff ages ago. And tbh, the fact that 1582 leaked so early probably helped people's expectations go up for the album. =.=

doesn't mean we MUST buy it ON that day
Ikr. I bought SIGNAL like what... last year? a couple months ago? XDDD It sure was pretty recent though and definitely not when it was released. Maybe having the leak for a longer amount of time will make them a fan, or make them want to buy the album even faster. DELAY won't help AT ALL. Idk maybe this idea would've worked like... what... 10-20 years ago though, maybe. XDDD If fans want to buy it, they will. If non-fans want to buy it one day, they will. Don't try to FORCE them to buy something because why in the world would they? =.=

4. I probably spent over $1000 on KAT-TUN CD/DVDs because of my multiple copy buying tendencies. XDD Although I usually give the RE away... I just hate how they think that delaying the release date will make them more of a saint and will help "even a little" (no, it won't). Seriously, just ban it all COMPLETELY. I totally look up to dnbn for being able to only allow previews and nothing more. They don't "oh, just not share a leak for a few days", they don't have any full versions period.

Yeah, the leaks are what made me decide to get both versions in the first place. Otherwise I would've just been like "eh, w/e I already bought one" since I don't like making 2 separate orders (luckily HMV doesn't run out of LE as quickly as cdjapan lol). I usually figure that there will be previews or leaks and wait a couple weeks or however long before making my order. .__.

Ikr. Even the Japanese fans had leaks as they started coming out. But you still see them rushing to get the album. They even talked about how great the songs are and how they couln't wait for the album to be released as the songs slowly started getting released. Honestly, if sales go down for this album, it isn't the fans but the extra stuff included in the album. One song vs. a booklet isn't really worth getting both versions for I'm just stupid and weird when it comes to KAT-TUN. And that's the reason why most JE releases sell so high to begin with anyway: multiple copies.

[jicachan.livejournal.com]

There are still YnU which allows leaks.

I don't know why it is so much ruckus about this issue, I mean, it's not like it's the first time leaks are out....

Well, everybody has their own opinion...

[annneonet.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I'll probably moving to that comm.

Ikr. If you ask me, the semi-HQ scans of the booklet would've done more "damage" to their sales since it's the only incentive to buy the LE (even the cover's ugly). It isn't as if KAT-TUN's the only group that has their songs leaked anyway.

[jicachan.livejournal.com]

The real problem isn't fans sharing the leaks before release I guess, it's the leak itself.... ^^;

But everybody has the right to run their own comm as they please so...

[annneonet.livejournal.com]

There'll always be leaks though. No one can do anything about that (unless someone finds a way to kick everyone off the internet).

I think LJ should really change the word "community" lol. But that's true, which is why I'm just going to leave the comms that I find distasteful.